[odf-discuss] Response from a GNOME Foundation board director

Pamela Jones pj at groklaw.net
Wed Oct 31 13:46:27 EDT 2007


Oh, whew.  Thanks.

Jody Goldberg wrote:
> Again, please contact me directly if you have questions.  It would
> avoid silliness like this.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:06:00PM -0400, Pamela Jones wrote:
>> He's now helping Microsoft to resolve the comments?
> I haven't.  
> 
>>> --- robert_weir at us.ibm.com wrote:
>>> From: robert_weir at us.ibm.com
>>> To: ODF Discussion List <odf-discuss at opendocumentfellowship.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [odf-discuss] Response from a GNOME Foundation board director
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:35:46 -0400
>>> The practical difficulty here is that of timing.  While I have no doubt 
>>> that Jody was instrumental in getting additional technical disclosures 
>>> from Microsoft back in 2006, Ecma TC45 is not in that mode of operation 
>>> right now.  The OOXML standard Ecma 376 has already been approved by Ecma. 
>>>  It is now before JTC1 as DIS 29500 and the text is essentially frozen 
>>> since December 2006.  The only changes that can be made to it must be in 
>>> response to specific JTC1 national body ballot comments.  Jody can no 
>>> longer go to a TC45 meeting and say, "Gee, I'd like more information added 
>>> on X, Y and Z".  JTC1 rules forbid changes to the standard that are not 
>>> traceable to a national body comment.
> 
> That opinion is debatable.  ECMA as the body proposing the
> specification (and TC45 by proxy) has standing to preemptively bring
> forward issues with proposed resolutions at the BRM.  In the period
> between TC45 sending the spec on to ECMA and then on to ISO for
> review I continued to evaluate OOX, generating a couple dozen
> additional issues that required clarification.  These were put
> forward to the TC.  They could have been submitted via the Canadian
> standards organization which I joined for the purpose of this
> discussion.   However, it seemed more likely to get it resolved
> going directly to MS, than indirectly.
> 
> I have not been involved in issue resolution.  My Gnumeric time is
> very limited and prefer to spend it coding, or in work that will
> facilitate it's development.
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