[odf-discuss] Documenting support for ODF 1.1?

[Daniel]

marbux wrote:
>> Could you give me a link to the proposed change?
>
> Not a proposal at this point.  It's been adopted. <
> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/ballot.php?id=1281>.
> That page includes URLs for the competing proposals.

Ok. I don't think other list members have access to that page, so for 
everyone's benefit I downloaded the proposals and copied them to my 
personal website.

Topic: How lists are handled in ODF.

* Proposal 1: Proposed by
   - David Faure (KDE & Trolltech developer)
   - Thomas Zander (KDE developer)
   - Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (Sun Microsystems developer)
   http://daniel.carrera.name/Documents/ODF-proposal-1.odt

* Proposal 2: Proposed by
   - Florian Reuter (OpenDocument Foundation & Novell developer)
   http://daniel.carrera.name/Documents/ODF-proposal-2.odt

The proposal by David-Thomas-Oliver starts with the introduction: "In 
ODF 1.0 and ODF 1.1 lists turned out to be underspecified. Different 
implementors interpreted the specification in different ways." The 
proposal from Florian Reuter seems to agree that the spec needs 
clarification.

Each proposal is detailed and covers a deceptively complex issue. I 
don't feel I can do justice to them in this email, so I won't try to 
summarize them.

For the benefit of other list members who can't access that page:

- In the end the OASIS TC opted for the proposal from David, Thomas and 
Oliver with 5 votes to 2 for Florian's (71% majority).

- The votes for Florian's proposal came from Florian and also Gary Edwards.
- The votes for the David-Thomas-Oliver proposal came from David, Thomas 
and then also Helen Yue (IBM), Michael Brauer (Sun, TC Chair), Lars 
Oppermann (Sun, TC Secretary), Eike Rathke (Sun). Oliver is not a voting 
member.

>> That is what triggered the meltdown on the TC now playing out.
>>
>> What meltdown?
> 
> The one that followed that ballot and is still reverberating across the TC
> and beyond.

I'm not aware of any meltdown following the ballot. I remember a complex 
technical discussion that preceeded the vote. The main thing I got out 
of it is that lists are a surprisingly complex technical issue and that 
I'm glad the final proposal was supported by the three major 
implementors of ODF (Sun, KDE, IBM).

Best,
Daniel.