[odf-discuss] Quality of ODF applications

[Cathy Brode]

You can achieve server based conversion from ODF to PDF via 3BOpenDoc or 3BTransform. The former is listed in http://opendocumentfellowship.org/applications I must add the latter http://www.3bview.com/3btran.html !


Cathy

Mirko Nasato wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Thanks for your answers. The viewer certainly is something that can 
> make a real difference, provided that it reaches good functionality 
> level. XUL is also a good choice. I'd suggest keeping an eye on 
> portability to mobile devices as well.
>
> The test suite also looks interesting, I'll have a more in depth look 
> when I have the time. I suppose that's what KOffice. Does 
> OpenOffice.org? I guess not. Could it be developed alongside with the 
> viewer? You need tests for the viewer anyway.
>
> I'm not convinced about the 5-star system on the application list. 
> Just sounds arbitrary, can it gain any credibility?
>
> Personally, I'm mostly interested in ODF on the server side, for 
> enterprise applications. Being XML it's very easy to manipulate to 
> generate dynamic documents. But then it must be displayed correctly on 
> the client, otherwise it's not very useful.
>
> What I'd do if I had more time is to write an ODT to PDF converter.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mirko
>
> Daniel Carrera wrote:
>> Hi Mirko,
>>
>>  
>>> This makes me think about quality of applications and how it will 
>>> affect ODF adoption. Isn't there a risk that ODF gets a reputation 
>>> for being an unreliable format if a valid document gets displayed 
>>> differently in different applications, yet all these applications 
>>> claim to support ODF?     
>>
>> The risk is definitely there. Truth is that ODF is not intended to be a
>> pixel-perfect file format (nor is any format used by any office suite in
>> the world). But people don't know or care about that. I certainly expect
>> ODF applications to do a *good* job at rendering the document.
>>
>>  
>>> Is there a minimum compliance level before an application can claim 
>>> ODF compatibility?
>>>     
>>
>> Certainly not in terms of visual fidelity. However, the Fellowship is
>> maintaining an applications list with information on their level of
>> support (using a 5-star system):
>>
>> http://opendocumentfellowship.org/applications
>>
>> In addition, Intel and the University of Central Florida are sponsoring
>> a Test Suite project that can be used for testing how well an
>> application supports ODF:
>>
>> http://testsuite.opendocumentfellowship.org/
>>
>> As the test suite develops, and the Fellowship and the test suite
>> project gain volunteers to do testing and help with the test suite, the
>> situation will only improve.
>>
>> Would you be willing to help with either project? To help with the test
>> suite, please contact Thomas Zander at zander at kde.org. To help with the
>> applications list, just go through the applications and add the best
>> information you can in a format that is useful to consumers.
>>
>> We really need someone to help out with the applications list. I used to
>> do it, but now I'm working on the Fellowship's ODF viewer project (very
>> important too).
>>
>> Would you be willing to help out with this?
>>
>>  
>>> I mean, if I wanted a format that is widely supported and degrades 
>>> gracefully I would just use HTML, at least for Text documents. 
>>> Ideally ODF should get close to PDF in terms of reliability.
>>>     
>>
>> Well, that is not a realistic expectation. ODF and PDF are designed
>> differently, for different purposes. PDF's visual reliability comes at a
>> heavy price: PDF files are not really editable. ODF is a very well
>> designed format for use in office applications.
>>
>>  
>>> I suspect that PDF has become a great success also because Adobe 
>>> since the beginning made available a free viewer for most platforms,
>>>     
>>
>> You are absolutely right. Did I mention that the Fellowship is working
>> on a cross-platform ODF viewer? :-)
>>
>> http://opendocumentfellowship.org/development/projects/odfviewer
>>
>> Let's do this, I and others work on the ODF viewer, and you help us with
>> the application list and/or the test suite. What do you say?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel.
>>   
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