[odf-discuss] Apache2 and ODF (was: 16x16 mime type icons)

[Pete Harlow]

So I should really state that the icons are Trade Marks rather than
Copyright... which I presume I can state with no further action as they are
not *registered* trade marks?

-P.

On 16/11/06, Daniel Carrera <daniel.carrera at zmsl.com> wrote:
>
> Thomas, I'm sorry, but you are confused. You are going on and on about
> copyright licenses and copyright licenses have nothing to do with icons.
> Yes, we know this for sure, yes we did talk to a lawyer. The Software
> Freedom Law Centre said that for icons copyright law is completely
> irrelevant, and we should be looking at trademark law. No point in
> talking about GPL, LGPL, BSD or Creative Commons, that's all copyright
> stuff. The SFLC said they couldn't represent us, but suggested we get
> legal advice and get a trademark license. Yes, they did suggest getting
> a trademark license. They just said to make it permissive. That's what
> we have today. We also asked Ubuntu (as an example of a GNU/Linux
> distro) if the license we picked was acceptable to them, and they said
> it was, and that they would be willing to use the icon using that
> trademark license.
>
> Daniel.
>
>
> On Thu, 2006-16-11 at 14:45 +0100, Thomas Zander wrote:
> > I think you are confusing two points here.
> >
> > * The bsd-original license meant that in documentation or other places
> where
> > the end product was shipped the name of the author(s) was to be placed.
> This
> > is indeed a no-go as you saw.
> >
> > * The point that CC makes is that the author of the work needs to be
> > registered very much like the author of a piece of sourcecode adds his
> name
> > to the header of the file.
> > This is required by copyright law. If there is no named copyright holder
> you
> > can't copy the copyrighted content. As well as a license, if there is no
> > license, you can't copy the work.
> >
> > If you read the actual license[1] you will see that (4 a and b) will
> require
> > anyone to a) point out the actual license the files are under and b) the
> > name/email of the author.
> >
> > This is (legally) different from what you have on your page now and IMO
> not a
> > problem at all.
> >
> > 1) http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/
> >
> > On Thursday 16 November 2006 14:05, Pete Harlow wrote:
> > > Thomas,
> > >
> > > It was *having* attribution that was the problem. The deed says "*
> > > Attribution*. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by
> the
> > > author or licensor." and I suppose it is possible to say "No
> attribution
> > > required". But I am told many projects shy away from contributions
> under
> > > the CC licence because of 'attribution creep', the requirement to keep
> and
> > > manage huge lists of contributors.
> > >
> > > On 16/11/06, Thomas Zander <zander at kde.org> wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 16 November 2006 13:29, Pete Harlow wrote:
> > > > > IIRC the problem with the CC licence was the one of attribution,
> and
> > > >
> > > > with
> > > >
> > > > > the FSF licences obviously one of using the work in commercial
> > > > > packages.
> > > >
> > > > Did you try the wizard I linked to?
> > > > It allows for attribution.
> > > >
> > > > Not that I think its a smart thing to ask for if your first goal is
> to
> > > > have a
> > > > big uptake.
> > > > --
> > > > Thomas Zander
> > > >
> > > >
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